"Real" men V'S "Nice" guys

First off, in the intrests of being honest and
upfront here...Let me just say that I AM one
of the "nice" guys I speak of in this sermon.

Speaking to the men out there...

How many times have you been told by a woman
that your "nice" or that your a "nice" guy ?

How many times have you been told that your
"sweet" or that your a "sweet" man ?

How many times have you heard "How sweet of you"
in refference to something youve said and/or done ?

How many times have you been told by a woman,
"your a good friend" ?

If youve been around as long as I have and your
not the loud, boisterous, "self confident" type then
Im willing to bet that youve heard those statements
quite often...

In fact, I'd be willing to bet that youve heard them
far more often than not.

Now, again, if youve been around as long as I have
then at some point in your life, your gonna realise
that when a woman tells you these things...

Its the kiss of death in regards to being able to
pursue anything other than just a "friendship"
whether it be romantic or sexual or both.

All those "nice" descriptions is a woman's "nice"
way of calling you a loser.

Sooo...What kind of men DO women in general
prefer ?

Well, its been my experiance that theyre the ones
that women classify as arrogant, jerks and in some
cases...Assholes.

Pretty much the same kind of men that us "nice"
guys would also classify as such...And can never
be...At least, not without seriously compromising
our sense of integrity and morality in regards to
how women should be treated.

What makes it worse is that many if not all of
these women will swear up and down on a stack
of bibles 20 feet high that they want a "good" man.

Which translates to me as they want a man with
both the attributes of the arrogant jerk asshole
AND the "nice" guy.

The problem being ladies is that, except for rare
instances if even then, you cant have both in the
same man...

Or to put it another way...

You cant have your cake and eat it too.

Ive been on the women's rights blog on change.org
for a while now and every now and then, I run
across an article talking about how women are
abused by their husbands or their boyfriends and
everytime, my heart goes out to these victims of
domestic abuse and/or date rape...

BUT at the same time, I cant help asking myself
why ?

Why do women claim they want a man who will
love them and treat them with respect then they
wind up choosing a "man" who inevitably winds
up abusing and sometimes killing them ?

I believe that part of the reason lies in women
having been taught from an early age that "nice"
guys are worthless and indeed losers but still
worthy of being used and taken advantage of
and then discarded when they have nothing left
of value to either offer and/or give.

Simitaneously they are also being taught that
the only men worth having are the arrogant jerk
assholes that so many of them wind up with...

And then regret their decision.

Now granted that not all of us "nice" guys are
better than them but I would say that the majority
are.

One other thing Ive noticed, again on the women's
rights blog and again, in these same articles is that
there is an indication that many if not all of these
women KNOW that what theyve been taught is
wrong and yet they still do it...

Why ? I dont know.

What I do know is that untill women in general
understands that they cant have their cake and
eat it too, were gonna be a long ways off from
illiminating domestic abuse EVEN if we do
everything else right to put a stop to it.

The 2 Spirited

Gay Native Americans Reclaim Two-Spirit Culture | Gay Rights | Change.org

The 2 spirited are what the native american people
would have considered members of the G.L.B.T.
community back in the days before the white man
invaded and took over...

Whether we call them 2 spirited, gays, homosexuals,
bisexuals and/or lesbians...They are still human
beings worthy of the same rights as we heterosexuals.

I find it intriguing as I often do that the native americans
were so often much more socialy and spiritualy
advanced than the white folks...At least untill the white
people came and destroyed that wonderfull heritage
with their greed, hate and intollerance of any way of
life that was different from their own.

Intriguing and sad.

For those of you who may be intrested in learning
more about the G.L.B.T. community and/or the 2 spirited,
I would like to recommend these links.

http://www.gay-art-history.org/gay-history/gay-customs/native-american-homosexuality/two-spirit-native-american-gay.html

http://www.gaychurch.org/

www.religiouscoalition.org

www.catholicsformarriageequality.org

www.standformarriagemaine.com

www.mainefreedomtomarry.com

http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org

http://www.religioustolerance.org/

http://www.soulforce.org/

http://www.ifge.org/

http://www.gender.org/

http://www.transparentcy.org/

Blessed be.

Vincent Ambrasino

Vinny Ambrosino

Hello

I feel my work is almost done with you.
You don't even know me and you're calling me a bigot.
That is why I am sending this message privately.
Since when did it become if you did not agree with
gay marriage (or the entire gay agenda) it made you
a bigot?
And you know what else I've noticed?
If a person is pro life, to you, they hate women.
If they disagree with gay marriage, they are a bigot.
Basically anyone who does not have the same
opinions as you hates some group.
You, and everyone who lines up exactly with you are
the only ones who "believe strongly in equality and
freedom with harm to none."
By the way, if I had a penny for every time I've been
called a "Bible thumper" I would hold some kind of
record.
That name is as old as the Bible itself.
It really doesn't do anything for your argument.
If you really want to sound as wise as you think you
do, come up with something more original.

MY REPLY

Mr. ambrasino...

ROTFLMFAO...

You almost done with me ???

Whatever.

Your right that I dont know you and for the record,
I dont ever wanna know you...

And you ARE a bigot...

Among many other things.

Dude...You didnt send this message to me in
private because you respected or even cared
anything about me...

Not that I give a damn either way.

You sent this privately because you knew that
if you posted it publicly...

You'd be made even more a fool of.

Simple agreement or disagreement on any
given subject was never the problem...

As you already know.

The problem is when you go beyond simply
disagreeing and then try to force your beliefs
onto others...

Then it becomes a problem.

Now, the fact that you dont believe in equality
for all as evidenced by some of your posts
and your "kind" letter to me illustrates that you
are indeed a bigot.

As for your "pro-life" statement...

First, if you bible thumpers truly cared about
life and/or children then you wouldnt be touting
abstinence as the best thing since sliced bread
and there would be far fewer if any children
awaiting adoption in american orphanages...

Pro-life my ass.

And as for hating women...

Wanting to deny them the right to decide for
themselves if they want to bear a child or
not is hatefull so by extension you apparently
hate women.

You speak of me as requiring everyone to
agree with me or be considered a bigot or
worse by me...

Bullshit.

On the other hand...

I've noticed that you bible thumpers do
have that requirement...

You are right that those who are my allies
in the ongoing fight for civil rights do indeed
believe in equality for all with harm to none
BUT if your too foolish to understand that no-one
has the right to force their beliefs onto others
then that aint my problem...Thats your problem.

So...Bible thumper isnt original enough for you ?

As if you and your bible thumping buddies even
deserve anything better but still...

How does fundietard(s) grab you ?

Fundie fuckheads ?

I could always use them...If Im in the mood to do so.

In any case, you might wanna consider that
the reason bible thumper isnt original per se
is because you fundietarded fundie fuckheads
have existed ever since jesus walked the earth
and died trying to correct you idiots.

Oh...By the way...Your letter to me along with
my reply will not only be posted on one or
more blog articles in both the gay rights and
the women's rights section...

It will also be blogged on my ministry site at...

http://www.ministryofthegreatspirit.blogspot.com
____________________________________________

I decided to post this on my ministry blog to better
illustrate just how childish the bible thumpers
tend to be in that they want and even demand the
freedom to preach their words of hate and intollerance
but are completely unable to handle anyone going
against them.

In mr. ambrasino's letter to me, he accuses me
of doing pretty much everything that bible thumpers
like him do and have done.

So in addition to being childish, theyre also in self
denial and they tend to express their self denial
in the form of projecting their childishness onto
others like myself.

Further illustrating their desperate need for not
only psychiatric assistance but to also learn to
think for themselves and to resist being blind
followers.

Thank you mr. ambrasino for enabling me to
show in a way that I otherwise wouldnt have
been able to just how pathetic you bible
thumpers really are.

A possible scam artist

I recently met someone from ghana on netlog
who requested my friendship...And perhaps
foolishly, I accepted his request.

Now, I just got done having a conversation
with him where he was complaining about
his situation in that he lives with and serves
a pastor and his family wherein, he cooks
and serves them their meals before he gets
to eat.

Now, I really dont know enough about ghana
to be able to understand whether or not thats
a normal part of life there or not BUT one thing
that I find curious is that he was clearly able to
access a computer and the internet and has
been able to do so since 2004 if not before then.

First red flag.

Another thing that struck me was that he specificly
said that both of his parents were dead then later
he mentioned that his mother would love to meet
me...In the present tense...

That set off another red flag right there.

This is his yahoo address...

nanaadjei2020@yahoo.co.uk

And this was our conversation...

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:21:02 AM):

welcome

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:21:04 AM):

Merry meet

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:21:13 AM):

Good welcome

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:21:19 AM):

Please Bonny

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:21:31 AM):

Well so how is life there at ?

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:21:50 AM):

Not bad...A bit cold this time of the year

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:22:03 AM):

Hows life where your at ?

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:22:23 AM):

Well very economical as well

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:22:40 AM):

But much corrupt by the leaders as well

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:22:48 AM):

So u married or single

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:22:53 AM):

What is ur work?

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:23:18 AM):

Im single but taken and Im not working at this time.

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:23:35 AM):

Oh really why

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:23:40 AM):

U get retired bonny?

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:23:50 AM):

I learnt u are the minister

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:24:10 AM):

Indeed...I am retired and yes, I am ordained.

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:24:37 AM):

Oh i see cool

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:24:47 AM):

Well am also from the orphanage home

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:25:00 AM):

I lost all my parents and family memebers at the age of 2yrs

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:25:06 AM):

Now stay with one pastor here

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:25:22 AM):

Does he or she treat you well ?

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:25:57 AM):

Well i will say much MALTREAT

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:26:03 AM):

All the same i take it like that

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:26:12 AM):

Since begger have no choice

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:26:32 AM):

I see that your 21...Can you work ?

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:27:06 AM):

Well yes i can work BUT where is the work

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:27:16 AM):

No one is ready to employ me here

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:27:27 AM):

Yet am so much workable and hardwork

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:27:45 AM):

Ghana is like whom u know

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:27:51 AM):

People are so greedy

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:28:06 AM):

We have that same problem here in america

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:28:29 AM):

It once took me 5 years to find work

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:29:06 AM):

Oh i see

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:29:22 AM):

Well so the question is why people are so greedy like that?

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:29:34 AM):

U get kids? Mr Bonny

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:29:44 AM):

Though am 21 but cute

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:30:10 AM):

I would say its because our society has grown to
value money more than people.

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:30:31 AM):

I dont have kids...Nor do I expect to.

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:31:08 AM):

Oh i see cool no prb

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:32:19 AM):

So how are you being mistreated ?

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:32:38 AM):

Please well Bonny so well all my wish is to travel to
the to even get small work like the house maid there

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:32:51 AM):

Well my normal food to be taken is always eaten and left

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:33:01 AM):

Thus the surplus is my normal food to take

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:33:38 AM):

Again i have to cook food and serve the kids of that
man before after they eat and i wash the bowls and
then later take mine

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:34:43 AM):

So if I understand you correctly...You work as
a cook and server to the pastor and his kids
and you serve them before you can eat...
Is that about right ?

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:35:21 AM):

Oh yes Please and also i sleep on the floor thus
the valander as well

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:35:25 AM):

No bed

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:35:37 AM):

Thus much painful to feel as well

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:35:50 AM):

I am in this for over 15 yrs

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:36:03 AM):

I can imagine but that wouldnt change by you
comming to the u.s.

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:36:36 AM):

Oh yes BUT at least will get paid as well

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:36:39 AM):

Have you tried contacting human rights ?

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:37:05 AM):

Here no payment to buy cloths nor unforseen
situations like the medicine when get sick

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:37:27 AM):

Oh yes BUT since about millions of people gets
writs to them

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:37:41 AM):

Hence cannot figure out the Good ones to help out

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:37:46 AM):

Is like screening

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:38:20 AM):

What i know is there at at least such people get paid
off BUT here not

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:38:29 AM):

U only get eat thus all

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:39:11 AM):

While its true you get paid here for your work...
Our economy aint all that good...A lot of folks
are out of work here

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:39:43 AM):

Oh i see BUT to have a loaf as i mean is better than none

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:39:46 AM):

Hope u get me

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:40:05 AM):

Indeed...So why did you want to be my friend ?

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:40:45 AM):

Well for friendship and contacts help one
to attain the level he/she does not know

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:41:06 AM):

Again friends helps one to get to know the
world and it matters

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:41:37 AM):

Remember the right hand washes the left so the
left also does to the right

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:42:26 AM):

Yes thats true...However you should know up
front that I have no money to spare to help
you financialy

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:43:05 AM):

Oh that isn't problem at all and u remember me my mom..........

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:43:06 AM):

My mom always told me that we could never measure
our wealth by money but by our friends.
She would surely be glad to meet you and know how
rich I turned out to be!

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:43:20 AM):

Thank you.

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:43:29 AM):

U welcome

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:43:51 AM):

U know what when i was in school too my parents used
to tell me that A friend is like a book that has to be read to
appreciate its beauty.
As such, you're one of the finest books ever written.
How I wish you could be reprinted!

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:44:25 AM):

You flatter me and you hardly know me

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:45:11 AM):

Oh yes even just a single minute from the talks and
notice out one can easily figure out the Good and
bad friend

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:45:19 AM):

Hope u know that ? Care is the main ingredient that
keeps true friendships alive despite separation,
distance and time. Care sustains love. Since I can't
see you, let my care be with you, friend!

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:45:36 AM):

Your very kind

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:45:47 AM):

U welcome thank u Some friends are separated by time.
Some are separated by differences. Some by distances,
some by pride. But no matter how far you are or different
we There is a golden bridge called friendship that spans
the river of time and links out hearts together even if we
walks separate roads of life.

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:46:21 AM):

I apreciate your words but I gotta go to bed
soon before I fall asleep

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:47:11 AM):

Oh okay u welcome please and remember that for i
Owusu will promise though cannot be perfect friend
BUT always i will do up all my best to be the best
ever had friends

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:47:13 AM):

How long shall we be friends? Do you want a clue?
As long as stars twinkle in the sky, till the water
runs dry and till the day I die. We will be friends.

OWUSU ABRAHAM (11/28/2009 6:47:21 AM):

Stay Blessed

reverend_boony (11/28/2009 6:47:30 AM):

And you as well
____________________________________________

Now...I gotta tell you folks that even with those
two red flags, it is entirely possible that owasu
is just a lonely young man desperate for a
friend AND perhaps they do things differently
in ghana BUT from where I come from, you
dont start out implying that you would like
help to move to a different place from a
stranger that you just met...Not unless it was
a life or death situation and nothing owasu
said indicates that his life is in any danger...

Its also possible that he being 21, is just
dissatisfied with his situation and wants to
hit the big time...So to speak.

A third possibility and the one that seems
more likely given our conversation, is that
he's a scammer looking to scam this
southern fried yankey wiccan minister.

Which is sooo not gonna happen.

I promptly removed him from my yahoo
messenger contacts and will be removing
him off of my netlog buddy list as well...

AND as is evidenced here...Im gonna blog
him.

These crimes of hate must stop

Gay teen burned and decapitated in Puerto Rico

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What the fuck ???

This poor kid was murdered because he was gay ?

How fucking stupid is that ?

Hurting and/or killing someone because of an innate trait
that you dont like is not only barbaric but childish.

All I can say is...

Im glad that hate crimes bill passed.

More recently Ive read where the investigating officer said
that the kid got what would be expected of someone living
that lifestyle...

LIFESTYLE ???

Officer dude...What the hell are you smoking ?

Since when is a sexual orientation a lifestyle ?

Somebody PLEASE smack that idiot cop upside his head.

Mother defends breast feeding

Mother defends breastfeeding - Nova Scotia News - TheChronicleHerald.ca#recommends

As is this mother refferenced in the article link, I too am
sick and tired of people who lie and/or misrepresent the
truth when it comes to the harmless activities of others...

In this case...Breast feeding.

Now, I know that in some cases, there are mothers who
are unable to breast feed their babies and while sad, it
isnt cause to treat them as lesser mothers because of
that inability...Not if they honestly tried and failed.

By the same token...

Its just as wrong for those who dont believe in breast
feeding to be trying to discourage other mothers from
doing so whether by way of intimidation and/or lies.

So...Lets address some of the fears and problems that
have been played on.

PROBLEM # 1

Not enough milk.

SOLUTION

A lot of factors can affect the ability of your
breasts to produce enough milk.

One of these factors is stress.

Another is diet.

Then theres the sleep factor.

If you aint getting enough sleep then your
not gonna be able to function at your best
and neither are your breasts.

So if you can relax and maintain a healthy
diet and get plenty of sleep, chances are
much better that your breasts will produce
enough milk for your baby(s).

PROBLEM # 2

Nipple pain when breastfeeding.

SOLUTION

1 possible reason for this is incorrect
positioning.
If the baby is suckling only at tthe nipple
then it will lead to sorness and pain.

Instead of using lotions or creams, just
apply a little of your own breast milk to
the sore nipples and allow it to dry.

Then start feeding your baby in the correct
position and the problem should be solved.

CORRECT NURSING POSITIONS

1 : The baby's head and neck are straight
or bent slightly back.

2 : The baby's body is turned towards the mother,
up close to her, facing the breast.

3 : The baby's whole body is supported.

4 : There should be eye contact between mother
and baby while feeding.

GOOD ATTACHMENT SIGNS

1 : The baby's chin touching the breast

2 : The mouth wide open, with the lower lip turned outward.

3 : More of the areola visible above than below the baby's mouth.

4 : No pain in the breast.

PROBLEM # 3

My breastfed baby has diarhea.

SOLUTION

Its perfectly normal for a baby being exclusivly
breastfed to sometimes have frequint loose stools.

PROBLEM # 4

Breastfeeding while on medication.

SOLUTION

Most common drugs wont harm babys but its
always a good idea to consult your doctor unless
your doctor has indicated that she/he is against
breastfeeding in which case a second and/or third
opinion should be sought.

PROBLEM # 5

Tobacco and breastfeeding.

SOLUTION

Tobacco, in particular smoking, can affect your
baby through the breast milk and cause respiratory
problems including asthma.

It can also make it more likely that your baby will
become addicted to tobacco later on down the road.

Its best if you dont use any tobacco while breast
feeding.

PROBLEM # 6

Small breasts.

SOLUTION

Production of breastmilk is not dependent on the size
of the breast.

Milk is produced inside the mammary glands under
the influence of prolactin which is a hormone released
from the anterior pituitary gland in the brain.

The milk then flows into the breast's ducts to be stored
in the lactiferous sinuses.

Under the influence of oxytocin, a hormone is then
released from the posterior pituitary gland which makes
the muscles around the alveoli contract and cause an
ejection of the milk.

PROBLEM # 7

Does my inability to breastfeed my first child affect
future breastfeeding ?

SOLUTION

No...You should be as confident as possible each
time you attempt to breastfeed.

PROBLEM # 8

Must I give up certain foods in order to maintain a
good milk supply ?

SOLUTION

No...Not unless something you eat is upsetting the
baby's tummy and you can ascertain what it is by
monitoring what you eat and varying your diet untill
you narrow it down or you can just eat small
amounts at a time untill you find out the problem
food.

Just remember to eat enough for two.

PROBLEM # 9

How do I know if my baby is getting enough milk ?

SOLUTION

Your baby should be fed on demand, with a minimum
of more than eight feeds every 24 hours.

Initially the demands are very frequent, but in a week
or two, the frequency decreases.

The baby should be fed as frequently and for as long
as he/ she wants, even at night.

Breastfeeding at night helps maintain the milk supply,
as more prolactin is secreted at night.

A satisfied child releases the nipple spontaneously.
The mother does not have to stop breastfeeding.

PROBLEM # 10

Will my breasts sag if I breastfeed ?

SOLUTION

The breast size increases during and post pregnancy.

This is because the milk ducts become active.

Since they become heavier, there is a possibility of
sagging.

It is therefore necessary to wear a supportive maternity
brassiere throughout your pregnancy.

For nursing, wear a nursing brassiere that offers support
and some protection against leakage.

It is also beneficial to perform exercises that strengthen
the breasts muscles.

If you continue to have problems then please contact
these sites and/or talk to a doctor that advocates and
understands the fine art of breastfeeding.

BREAST FEEDING LINKS

W.H.O.

http://www.who.int/en/

A.A.P.

http://www.aap.org/

LA LECHE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL

http://www.llli.org/

BREAST FEEDING DVD

“Breastfeeding: A Guide For Success”
costs $19.95 and is available by going to...

http://www.nwgabfcoalition.com

or calling (800) 289-7406.

It is available in English and Spanish.

Mothers who are part of the WIC program in
murray and whitfield counties can ask their
nutritionist about getting a copy of the DVD.

The arrogance of bible thumpers

Catholics, evangelicals pledge to ignore gay rights and abortion laws « Colorado Independent

Well folks...

Looks to me like the religious fanatics also known as
fundemental christians or as I like to call them...
Bible thumpers...Have finally decided to stop making
any pretense whatsoever of being the good guys.

They have declared open war on our secular legal
system with their manhattan declaration, saying in
effect that as far as theyre concerned, their insane
beliefs put them above secular law.

The list of signers is below...

THE MANHATTAN DECLARATION SIGNERS

1

Dr. Daniel Akin

President, Southeastern Baptist Theological
Seminary (Wake Forest, NC)

2

Most Rev. Peter J. Akinola

Primate, Anglican Church of Nigeria (Abika,
Nigeria)

3

Randy Alcorn

Founder and Director, Eternal Perspective
Ministries (EPM) (Sandy, OR)

4

Rt. Rev. David Anderson

President and CEO, American Anglican Council
(Atlanta, GA)

5

Leith Anderson

President of National Association of Evangelicals
(Washington, DC)

6

Charlotte K. Ardizzone

TV Show Host and Speaker, INSP Television
(Charlotte, NC)

7

Kay Arthur

CEO and Co-founder, Precept Ministries
International (Chattanooga, TN)

8

Dr. Mark L. Bailey

President, Dallas Theological Seminary (Dallas,
TX)

9

His Grace, The Right Reverend
Bishop Basil Essey

The Right Reverend Bishop of the Diocese of
Wichita and Mid-America (Wichita, KS)

10

Joel Belz

Founder, World Magazine (Asheville, NC)

11

Rev. Michael L. Beresford

Managing Director of Church Relations, Billy
Graham Evangelistic Assn. (Charlotte, NC)

12

Ken Boa

President, Reflections Ministries (Atlanta, GA)

13

Jody Bottum

Editor of First Things (New York, NY)

14

Pastor Randy & Sarah Brannon

Senior Pastor, Grace Community Church (Madera,
CA)

15

Steve Brown

National radio broadcaster, Key Life (Maitland, FL)

16

Dr. Robert C. Cannada, Jr.

Chancellor and CEO of Reformed Theological
Seminary (Orlando, FL)

17

Galen Carey

Director of Government Affairs, National
Association of Evangelicals (Washington, DC)

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18

Dr. Bryan Chapell

President, Covenant Theological Seminary (St.
Louis, MO)

19

Scott Chapman

Senior Pastor, The Chapel (Libertyville, IL)

20

Most Rev. Charles J. Chaput

Archbishop, Roman Catholic Archdiocese of
Denver, CO

21

Timothy Clinton

President, American Association of Christian
Counselors (Forest, VA)

22

Chuck Colson

Founder, the Chuck Colson Center for Christian
Worldview (Lansdowne, VA)

23

Most Rev. Salvatore Joseph
Cordileone

Bishop, Roman Catholic Diocese of Oakland, CA

24

Dr. Gary Culpepper

Associate Professor, Providence College
(Providence, RI)

25

Jim Daly

President and CEO, Focus on the Family
(Colorado Springs, CO)

26

Marjorie Dannenfelser

President, Susan B. Anthony List (Arlington, VA)

27

Rev. Daniel Delgado

Board of Directors, National Hispanic Christian
Leadership Conference & Pastor, Third Day
Missions Church (Staten Island, NY)

28

Dr. James Dobson

Founder, Focus on the Family (Colorado Springs,
CO)

29

Dr. David Dockery

President, Union University (Jackson, TN)

30

Most Rev. Timothy Dolan

Archbishop, Roman Catholic Diocese of New York,
NY

31

Dr. William Donohue

President, Catholic League (New York, NY)

32

Dr. James T. Draper, Jr.

President Emeritus, LifeWay (Nashville, TN)

33

Dinesh D'Souza

Writer & Speaker (Rancho Santa Fe, CA)

34

Most Rev. Robert Wm. Duncan

Archbishop and Primate, Anglican Church in North
America (Ambridge, PA )

35

Joni Eareckson Tada

Founder and CEO, Joni and Friends International
Disability Center (Agoura Hills, CA)

36

Dr. Michael Easley

President Emeritus, Moody Bible Institute
(Chicago, IL)

37

Dr. William Edgar

Professor, Westminster Theological Seminary
(Philadelphia, PA)

38

Brett Elder

Executive Director, Stewardship Council (Grand
Rapids, MI)

39

Rev. Joel Elowsky

Drew University ( Madison, NJ)

40

Stuart Epperson

Co-Founder and Chariman of the Board, Salem
Communications Corporation ( Camarillo, CA)

41

Rev. Jonathan Falwell

Senior Pastor, Thomas Road Baptist Church
(Lynchburg, VA)

42

William J. Federer

President, Amerisearch, Inc. (St. Louis, MO)

43

Fr. Joseph D. Fessio

Founder and Editor, Ignatius Press (Ft. Collins,
CO)

44

Carmen Fowler

President & Executive Editor, Presbyterian Lay
Committee (Lenoir, NC)

45

Maggie Gallagher

President, Institute for Marriage and Public Policy
and a co-author of The Case for Marriage
(Manassas, VA)

46

Dr. Jim Garlow

Senior Pastor, Skyline Church (La Mesa, CA)

47

Steven Garofalo

Senior Consultant, Search and Assessment
Services (Charlotte, NC)

48

Dr. Robert P. George

McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence, Princeton
University (Princeton, NJ)

49

Dr. Timothy George

Dean and Professor of Divinity, Beeson Divinity
School at Samford University (Birmingham, AL)

50

Thomas Gilson

Director of Strategic Processes, Campus Crusade
for Christ International (Norfolk, VA)

51

Dr. Jack Graham

Pastor, Prestonwood Baptist Church (Plano, TX)

52

Dr. Wayne Grudem

Research Professor of Theological and Biblical
Studies, Phoenix Seminary (Phoenix, AZ)

53

Dr. Cornell "Corkie" Haan

National Facilitator of Spiritual Unity, The Mission
America Coalition (Palm Desert, CA)

54

Fr. Chad Hatfield

Chancellor, CEO. And Archpriest, St Vladimir's
Orthodox Theological Seminary (Yonkers, NY)

55

Dr. Dennis Hollinger

President and Professor of Christian Ethics,
Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (South
Hamilton, MA)

56

Dr. Jeanette Hsieh

Executive VP and Provost, Trinity International
University (Deerfield, IL)

57

Dr. John A. Huffman, Jr.

Senior Pastor, St. Andrews Presbyterian Church
(Newport Beach, CA) and Chairman of the Board,
Christianity Today International (Carol Stream, IL)

58

Rev. Ken Hutcherson

Pastor, Antioch Bible Church (Kirkland, WA)

59

Bishop Harry R. Jackson, Jr.

Senior Pastor, Hope Christian Church (Beltsville,
MD)

60

Fr. Johannes L. Jacobse

President, American Orthodox Institute and Editor,
OrthodoxyToday.org (Naples, FL)

61

Jerry Jenkins

Author (Black Forest, CO)

62

Camille Kampouris

Publisher, Kairos Journal

63

Emmanuel A. Kampouris

Editorial Board, Kairos Journal

64

Rev. Tim Keller

Senior Pastor, Redeemer Presbyterian Church
(New York, NY)

65

Dr. Peter Kreeft

Professor of Philosophy, Boston College (MA) and
at the Kings Collge (NY)

66

Most Rev. Joseph E. Kurtz

Archbishop, Roman Catholic Archdiocese of
Louisville, KY

67

Jim Kushiner

Editor, Touchstone (Chicago, IL)

68

Dr. Richard Land

President, The Ethics & Religious Liberty
Commission of the SBC (Washington, DC)

69

Jim Law

Senior Associate Pastor, First Baptist Church
(Woodstock, GA)

70

Dr. Matthew Levering

Associate Professor of Theology, Ave Maria
University (Naples, FL)

71

Dr. Peter Lillback

President, The Providence Forum (West
Conshohocken, PA)

72

Dr. Duane Litfin

President, Wheaton College (Wheaton, IL)

73

Rev. Herb Lusk

Pastor, Greater Exodus Baptist Church
(Philadelphia, PA)

74

His Eminence Adam Cardinal Maida

Archbishop Emeritus, Roman Catholic Diocese of
Detroit, MI

75

Most Rev. Richard J. Malone

Bishop, Roman Catholic Diocese of Portland, ME

76

Rev. Francis Martin

Professor of Sacred Scripture, Sacred Heart Major
Seminary (Detroit, MI)

77

Dr. Joseph Mattera

Bishop & Senior Pastor, Resurrection Church
(Brooklyn, NY)

78

Phil Maxwell

Pastor, Gateway Church (Bridgewater, NJ)

79

Josh McDowell

Founder, Josh McDowell Ministries (Plano, TX)

80

Alex McFarland

President, Southern Evangelical Seminary
(Charlotte, NC)

81

Most Rev. George Dallas McKinney

Bishop, & Founder and Pastor, St. Stephen's
Church of God in Christ (San Diego, CA)

82

Rt. Rev. Martyn Minns

Missionary Bishop, Convocation of Anglicans of
North America (Herndon, VA)

83

Dr. C. Ben Mitchell

Graves Professor of Moral Philosophy, Union
University (Jackson, TN)

84

Dr. R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

President, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
(Louisville, KY)

85

Dr. Russell D. Moore

Senior VP for Academic Administration & Dean of
the School of Theology, Southern Baptist
Theological Seminary (Louisville, KY)

86

Most Rev. John J. Myers

Archbishop, Roman Catholic Archdiocese of
Newark, NJ

87

Most Rev. Joseph F. Naumann

Archbishop, Roman Catholic Diocese of Kansas
City, KS

88

David Neff

Editor-in-Chief, Christianity Today (Carol Stream,
IL)

89

Tom Nelson

Senior Pastor, Christ Community Evangelical Free
Church (Leawood, KS)

90

Niel Nielson

President, Covenant College (Lookout Mt., GA)

91

Most Rev. John Nienstedt

Archbishop, Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Saint
Paul and Minneapolis, MN

92

Dr. Tom Oden

Theologian, United Methodist Minister and
Professor, Drew University (Madison, NJ)

93

Marvin Olasky

Editor-in-Chief, World Magazine and provost, The
Kings College (New York City, NY)

94

Most Rev. Thomas J. Olmsted

Bishop, Roman Catholic Diocese of Phoenix, AZ

95

Rev. William Owens

Chairman, Coalition of African-American Pastors
(Memphis, TN)

96

Dr. J.I. Packer

Board of Governors’ Professor of Theology,
Regent College (Canada)

97

Metr. Jonah Paffhausen

Primate, Orthodox Church in America (Syosset,
NY)

98

Tony Perkins

President, Family Research Council (Washington,
D.C.)

99

Eric M. Pillmore

CEO, Pillmore Consulting LLC (Doylestown, PA)

100

Dr. Everett Piper

President, Oklahoma Wesleyan University
(Bartlesville, OK)

101

Todd Pitner

President, Rev Increase

102

Dr. Cornelius Plantinga

President, Calvin Theological Seminary (Grand
Rapids, MI)

103

Dr. David Platt

Pastor, Church at Brook Hills (Birmingham AL)

104

Rev. Jim Pocock

Pastor, Trinitarian Congregational Church
(Wayland, MA)

105

Fred Potter

Executive Director & CEO, Christian Legal Society
(Springfield, VA)

106

Dennis Rainey

President, CEO, & Co-Founder, FamilyLife (Little
Rock, AR)

107

Fr. Patrick Reardon

Pastor, All Saints’ Antiochian Orthodox Church
(Chicago, IL)

108

Bob Reccord

Founder, Total Life Impact, Inc. (Suwanee, GA)

109

His Eminence Justin Cardinal Rigali

Archbishop, Roman Catholic Archdiocese of
Philadelphia, PA

110

Frank Schubert

President, Schubert Flint Public Affairs
(Sacramento, CA)

111

David Schuringa

President, Crossroads Bible Institute (Grand
Rapids, MI)

112

Tricia Scribner

Author (Harrisburg, NC)

113

Dr. Dave Seaford

Senior Pastor, Community Fellowship Church
(Matthews, NC)

114

Alan Sears

President, CEO, & General Counsel, Alliance
Defense Fund (Scottsdale, AZ)

115

Randy Setzer

Senior Pastor, Macedonia Baptist Church
(Lincolnton, NC)

116

Most Rev. Michael J. Sheridan

Bishop, Roman Catholic Diocese of Colorado
Springs, CO

117

Dr. Ron Sider

Director, Evangelicals for Social Action
(Wynnewood, PA)

118

Fr. Robert Sirico

Founder, Acton Institute (Grand Rapids, MI)

119

Dr. Robert Sloan

President, Houston Baptist University (Houston,
TX)

120

Charles Stetson

Chairman of the Board, Bible Literacy Project
(New York, NY)

121

Dr. David Stevens

CEO, Christian Medical & Dental Association
(Bristol, TN)

122

John Stonestreet

Executive Director, Summit Ministries (Manitou
Springs, CO)

123

Dr. Joseph Stowell

President, Cornerstone University (Grand Rapids,
MI)

124

Dr. Sarah Sumner

Professor of Theology and Ministry, Azusa Pacific
University (Azusa, CA)

125

Dr. Glenn Sunshine

Chairman of the history department of Central
Connecticut State University (New Britain, CT)

126

Luiz Tellez

President, The Witherspoon Institute (Princeton,
NJ)

127

Dr. Timothy C. Tennent

Professor, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary
(South Hamilton, MA)

128

Michael Timmis

Chairman, Prison Fellowship and Prison
Fellowship International (Naples, FL)

129

Mark Tooley

President, Institute for Religion and Democracy
(Washington, D.C.)

130

H. James Towey

President, St. Vincent College (Latrobe, PA)

131

Juan Valdes

Middle and High School Chaplain, Flordia
Christian School (Miami, FL)

132

Todd Wagner

Pastor, WaterMark Community Church (Dallas,
TX)

133

Dr. Graham Walker

President, Patrick Henry Univ. (Purcellville, VA)

134

Alexander F. C. Webster

Archpriest, Orthodox Church in America and
Associate Professorial Lecturer, The George
Washington University (Ft. Belvoir, VA)

135

George Weigel

Distinguished Senior Fellow, Ethics and Public
Policy Center (Washington, D.C.)

136

David Welch

Houston Area Pastor Council Executive Director,
US Pastors Council (Houston, TX)

137

Dr. James White

Founding and Senior Pastor, Mecklenberg
Community Church (Charlotte, NC)

138

Dr. Hayes Wicker

Senior Pastor, First Baptist Church (Naples, FL)

139

Mark Williamson

Founder and President, Foundation Restoration
Ministries/Federal Intercessors (Katy, TX)

140

Dr. Craig Williford

President, Trinity International University
(Deerfield, IL)

141

Dr. John Woodbridge

Research professor of Church History & the
History of Christian Thought, Trinity Evangelical
Divinity School (Deerfield, IL)

142

Don M. Woodside

Performance Matters Associates (Matthews, NC)

143

Dr. Frank Wright

President, National Religious Broadcasters
(Manassas, VA)

144

Most Rev. Donald W. Wuerl

Archbishop, Roman Catholic Archdiocese of
Washington, D.C.

145

Paul Young

COO & Executive VP, Christian Research Institute
(Charlotte, NC)

146

Dr. Michael Youssef

President, Leading the Way (Atlanta, GA)

147

Ravi Zacharias

Founder and Chairman of the board, Ravi
Zacharias International Ministries (Norcross, GA)

148

Most Rev. David A. Zubik

Bishop, Roman Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh, PA

Now...I dont know if they can be legaly charged
with treason against the united states or not BUT
theyre definatly traitors to jesus and to freedom...

What do you folks think ?